Is there evidence for the Book of Mormon – the answer may surprise you

by Rusty Lindquist on June 9, 2009 · 19 comments

Tina, on the post “Seeking for evidence” asked today:

Please give me the name of one renowned historian who takes the Book of Mormon serious.

Tina, I appreciate your question.  I have your answer.  Before I share it, I think it’s important to note why so many ask this question.

The Book of Mormon presents a serious challenge to orthodox Christianity.  It is said to be another witness of Jesus Christ, a record of His dealings with the Ancient American inhabitants.  If scripture, it provides clarity to the bible in ways which create occasional, but important contradictions to the traditions and beliefs that have evolved over the centuries by all other Christian denominations.

If the Book of Mormon is true, then not only does it call into question the beliefs of so many, but it has eternal implications for you, and calls for meaningful, but difficult changes to your life.

As such, it would be much easier if we could simply dismiss it, rather than undertake the spiritual responsibility of studying it ourselves, and asking God if it is true.  That makes us vulnerable, and we all prefer to have our beliefs validated, and not challenged.

If it could simply be dismissed, that would be so much easier.  If we could just say “there is insufficient archeological evidence to support such claims” then we give ourselves reason to move on.  And so rather than seek the answer from God, we seek answers from men, from science.  We say “give me evidence, give me proof”, even when we know that “faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen” (Hebrews 11:1).  Indeed, faith is the evidence, not things we can see.

Still, we want a sign, and archeology is the easiest, and often the first place to turn.  Why?  Because we’ve been raised under the misconception that the Americas don’t have the archeological evidence to support the massive amounts of people, or the advanced technology as recorded in the Book of Mormon.

Indeed, even today, textbooks teach that pre-Columbian America was largely uninhabited.  But as we continuously find throughout all the sciences, things previously accepted as facts (like a flat world), end up not being factual at all.

While there are numerous new findings (archeological, anthropological, and otherwise) that I could recount (and will at some point), perhaps the single best source I could refer you to is a new book, recently published, and that is now a National Bestseller. It’s called “1491:  New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus” by Charles C. Mann.  Coincidentally, Mann is not LDS, and didn’t intend to validate the Book of Mormon with his work, even though that’s precisely what he did.

The Washington Post said “1491 vividly compels us to re-examine how we teach the ancient history of the Americas…”  The book explains that contrary to what so many Americans learn in school, the pre-Columbian Indians were not sparsely settled, but were here in huge numbers, larger even than any contemporary European city.  That the people shaped the earth around them, had immaculately clean streets, running water, and were even the first to genetically engineer crops.  But for decades, archaeologists, anthropologists, paleolinguists, and others have been bringing forward a different story.  1491 brings it all together in one read.

One interesting revelation brought by these scientists, is the realization that rather than the first Americans having come over the Bering land bridge around 12,000 B.C, but rather that they came by boat.  Interestingly, that’s just how the Book of Mormon describes it.

Another interesting revelation is that the reason early European visitors found an empty landscape, was not because they’d found the natural, unchanging state of native America, but rather the end product of a vast society decimated by wars and epidemics – perhaps the greatest in human history.  Again, remarkably, that’s just how the Book of Mormon explains it.

Mann describes discovering gigantic ancient cities, with huge, 14 foot walls thrown up as fortifications.  Again, just how the Book of Mormon describes Moroni’s fortifications of the Nephite cities.

It was believed that the Inca, for instance, fell to Pizarro because they had no metallurgy.  But these findings clearly show that they actually had a highly refined metallurgy, just as the Book of Mormon states.

About the book, “Publishers Weekly” stated that “Mann also shows that the Maya constructed huge cities and governed them with a cohesive set of political ideals. Most notably, according to Mann, the Haudenosaunee, in what is now the Northeast U.S., constructed a loose confederation of tribes governed by the principles of individual liberty and social equality.”  Again, that’s just how the Book of Mormon describes the creation of the Nephite nation, and Moroni’s “standard of liberty” which united the cities, even placing them in the right area.

So while it would be convenient to dismiss the Book of Mormon based on the old, uninformed notion that there isn’t sufficient archeological evidence to validate its claims, in fact, the opposite is true.

So true in fact, that the new evidence not only validates the description of early America as recorded in the Book of Mormon, but validates the prophetic nature of the Joseph Smith.  For it must be remembered that we’re talking about a book written by Joseph Smith (actually translated from ancient plates) hundreds of years ago.  Long before any of this evidence was to surface, at a time when such writings were in stark contrast to current beliefs.  But here we are, hundreds of years later, finding detailed evidence validating that work.

It’s been surprising to many.

Publishers Weekly further commented about the book:  “In a riveting and fast-paced history, massing archeological, anthropological, scientific and literary evidence, Mann debunks much of what we thought we knew about pre-Columbian America.  Reviewing the latest, not widely reported research in Indean demography, origins and ecology, Mann zestfully demonstrates that long before any European explorers set foot in the New World, native American cultures were flourishing with a high degree of sophistication.  The new researchers have turned received wisdom on its head.”

I’ll be posting additional similarities illustrated in the Book (and elsewhere) to further eliminate this “easy out”, but if you prefer not to wait, here’s the link to it on Amazon.

Most importantly, however, are two simply points.  The first is the principle that we should not require the validation of science (or signs) to substantiate our faith.  It’s sure nice when it does, but true faith needs no such validation.  Second, having removed the easy dismissal of the Book of Mormon, it is upon each of us to then undertake the spiritual responsibility to consider the work for ourselves.  To study, and read it for ourselves.  And then to ask God, for ourselves, if it is not true.   It’s simply too important not to.

Indeed, “if any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God” (James 1:5).  The Book of Mormon itself contains a promise.

“And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things be not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost.  And by the power of the Holy Ghost, ye may know the truth of all things.” (Moroni 10:3-5)

Rusty

P.S.  for more information about the Book of Mormon, or to request a copy, click here.

See also “Discussing an open canon” for coverage and discussions about the common  misconception that the canon of scripture is closed.

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1 Allan June 9, 2009 at 8:33 AM

Nice post,
I recently saw a slide show presentation presented by Wayne May that showed some interesting artifacts ect.from North America.
His theory is that most of the history of the BOM took place in N. America and shows old and new discoveries and 1800′s texts to support that. Whether it is true or not who knows, but it was very interesting and worth the look.
Interestingly, even though there are many discoveries that could support the BOM, the L.D.S. church has a never tried to prove the BOM with evidences; but says: read it and ask God if it is true as God is the only one who can witness the truth of it to you through the Holy Ghost.

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2 ElGuapo June 9, 2009 at 2:38 PM

Has anyone pointed out these correlations to Mr. Mann? I think he’d be very interested to learn that his work precisely validated the Book of Mormon.

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3 Rusty Lindquist June 9, 2009 at 7:15 PM

Allan, thanks for the tip, I’ll check it out. I’m actually starting a whole new section of the blog called “The Book of Mormon Project”, geared toward defending the Book of Mormon. The problem is that there is so much non-truth out there that incorrectly taints people’s views and gives them prejudices before they even consider it. I aim to help address those misconceptions. Your tip may provide great content to include in this section. I just want to find the right balance, as you suggest. You cannot “prove” the Book of Mormon is true, no more than you can “prove” to someone that the Bible is true. That’s a personal, divine confirmation.

ElGuapo – I actually have been trying to find a good way to contact him about it, but I’m not quite done with the book yet, but I’m working on it. I’ve already bought the audio book, the digital version (for my iPhone), and the hard copy, so I’m reading it wherever I am. LOL.

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4 Elizabeth June 9, 2009 at 9:23 PM

Great post, and as usual, thank you Rusty. Would you believe that I was just finishing an intensive first read of the Book of Mormon when your post hit my email? I was baptized less than a year ago, and was called to teach Sunday School to young people almost immediately, so I started in Alma. I decided in Feb 2009 to read the BOM through and create sort of a ¨cliff notes¨for myself. Hah. 300 pages of notes later and I finished. LOL. Anyway, I´ve had my up and down moments with this Scripture, but your post helped with some of the niggling questions. One thing I know-reading the Book of Mormon from cover to cover has increased the strength of my testimony immeasurably. The Book of Mormon is another Testament of Jesus Christ.

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5 Rusty Lindquist June 9, 2009 at 10:47 PM

I’m so glad you shared that. There simply is no better way to understand the Book of Mormon than to just read it.

And wow, 300 pages of notes! Amazing. I’d love to hear some of your questions. Feel free to post them on the “Ask a Mormon” page (it’s not just for Non-Mormons!) LOL, and perhaps we can address them here.

Thanks again for your comments.

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6 JamesD June 11, 2009 at 6:42 AM

Thanks for the useful info. It’s so interesting

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7 Victoria Gunther June 11, 2009 at 11:06 AM

I am so grateful to have found your site! This is wonderful information. My testimony of the Book of Mormon comes from a time when I wasn’t even sure if there was a God, or if so, if He still had anything to do with this world. Reading the Book of Mormon changed my life, and allowed me to know that God was REAL and that He could give specific answers to me. The witness i received of its truthfulness has never dimmed in all these years. However, it’s wonderful to have the type of information you give here to share with others who might otherwise completely discount the Book of Mormon or be unwilling to even consider reading it due to negative misinformation.

Thank you so much. I was also humbled while reading through your background. What a lot you have overcome! And it is so true that even painful and difficult circumstances of our past make us who we are, and that the Savior can help us overcome anything. Truly, all things do work together for the good of those that love Him.

I’m so glad a saw a link to your site on Twitter. I’ll look forward to becoming a regular here. =o)

Victoria

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8 Greg June 12, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Hi Rusty – Fantastic post. Along these lines you may be interested in Hugh W. Nibley’s ong=forgotten Ensign article referenced in Nibley on Book of Mormon Geography.

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9 Margaret June 27, 2009 at 11:49 AM

This is fascinating. From what I learned at the FAIR Conference last summer, many of the Book Of Mormon events likely took place in Meso America. After the final battles, Moroni had plenty of time to make it to the upstate NY area to bury the plates safely in the Hill Cumorah.

It would be nice to have strong evidence, for those who need it, but I find that the witness of the Holy Ghost is much more valuable. Some things can only be learned through the spirit.

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10 Margaret July 1, 2009 at 11:51 AM

I read the link Greg posted. Thanks! There are many paths that lead us away from the core of the Gospel. Spending too much time on things for which there is no definitive answer, is one of them. Some things are important for us to understand, and some just don’t matter.

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11 Marcus August 9, 2009 at 1:13 PM

I look for evidence such as: How many hospitals has the Book of Mormon built compared to an atheist?

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12 Randy August 22, 2009 at 8:33 PM

If anyone would like a free online Book of Mormon please visit my website. I would comment more on this later on.

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13 Randy August 22, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Back again. Hi, Rusty! If you would some historical information that I have found online that supports the Book of Mormon please e-mail me at uft at yahoo.com. I have been digging around the internet for the past 5 years for anything concerning the Book of Mormon lands and I found quite a bit I would like to share. I also have a theory that is a lot different than what FARMS have (which I don’t agree with at all) and Wayne May’s theories in part. They don’t include all of Joseph Smith’s comments on where the Nephite lands are. Some of these sources are from non-Mormon books and done by government people. I pieced together all the evidences and information I could find and placed them on a map. A light bulb went off when I saw a pattern on the map. Central to my theories which very few people take into account is the migrations that took place. This is my favorite subject and I could talk on this subject for hours. If you would like to learn more please e-mail me.

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14 Randy August 22, 2009 at 10:48 PM

One more comment. I would like to add a couple of thoughts to this discussion. Christians have believed in the Bible for close to 1000 years without any archaeological evidence. People had faith in what they were taught and read. It wasn’t until the past 200 years that we were just looking for evidences to prove if the stories in the Bible were true or not. And because we are now in a scientific age and seeking proof of our beliefs is pretty much ingrained in our generation we believe we need physical proof of someone’s faith. No one has ever found absolute proof that God exists and yet some choose to believe in Him and others won’t because of lack of evidence of a God. The reason I chose to believe the Book of Mormon is a true record is because I believe I was prepared to be introduced to the new ideas presented in it. I already believed that people came over from the Middle East and through my studies in various religions I discovered the common elements in each of them. I wanted a Church that Christ started. I look at studying Biblical and Book of Mormon archaeology as a puzzle that needs to be put back together. I have faith that I can put it all together with God’s help and I know that the puzzle pieces are real. I have a Spirit that can guide me and help me to put all the pieces together to form the true picture of God’s hand in history. The pieces are very small and numerous so it requires a lot of time and patience and mistakes will be made. It’s like a black and white picture that suddenly was colorized or fuzzy photo with no information on it that suddenly became clear. I can see the people but not sure who they are and what they are doing. Once the photo became clear I then discovered through research that these people were once my grandparents and I learned their names. They are dancing at their wedding with other relatives. And through more research I learned more about my grandparents and their life and who the names the other people in the photo. You have a sense of belonging and you learn more about yourself and why you are the way you are. I am not sure if I am making any sense but I hope you get the point. You don’t need evidence to believe in something but it become more real and personal to you as you continue to putting all the pieces together.

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15 Bob September 11, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Hi… I have a theory about how the scriptures the Mormons hold faith in came to the Americas. If you look at some of the ancient migrations there is one that is about 3600 years old from Egypt. If you remember there were 10 sects or families of the slaves of Egypt that left around this date (1500 bc). Some of them have never been traced. Yet, in the Grand Canyon there is evidence of a culture with a remarkable similarity to that of Egyptian influences. The evidence was discovered in 1901 by an explorer and prospector who traversed the Columbia River through the Canyon. It was reported in the Phoenix Gazette of the same year. He found perfectly carved, perpendicular walls, similar treatment of the dead and carvings of some very interesting nature. This could well have been one of the lost tribes out of the exodus from the rule of Ramses. It has been shown to be possible to cross the Atlantic via the marine technology of the ancient Egyptions (Ra expedition). One will also note that the Hopi people speak of a rather oppressive culture immigrating to the Americas and using them a slaves or lower class citizens. They were taught to dig the canals we see today in Arizona that used to irrigate the incredible fields of corn they were taught to cultivate. The irrigation canals are identical to the structure of those found in Egypt.

I’m not saying the immigrants were “Egyptian” per sey… I”m suggesting they brought with them the monotheistic ways of their leader… Akenaten, husband of Nefertiti… the leader that took Egypt from a multi-deity culture to a monotheistic way of life… however short lived. He was later written as being the man known as “Moses”. Moses is an Egyptian nick name and term of endearment translating to “little one”. As you may remember Akenaten was disfigured somewhat in his morphology.

But all of these fragmented facts seemed to point to the reason the Mormon church feels there is a connection to the Americas and their prophets… I believe the true history of the various migrations to our continents would certainly help to explain the present day doctrine of the wonderful Mormon people.

Thank you, Bob.

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16 Persimmon October 1, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Have finished reading 1491. Mann certainly paints a very different picture of the cultures of North and South America before Columbus (and their subsequent demise) than we receive in US public education. The revised picture is one of widespread populations (hearing Carl Sagan saying “millions and millions”) which actively shaped land and environment. All in all, an excellent (if slightly zzzzzzzz inducing) read which gives a new appreciation for the prior inhabitants of the two continents. I took it slow and methodical – there’s a lot of information to digest, and while the author does make it as exciting as he can, the subject matter is “documentary in print”-like in nature.

There have been some speculations here that this work might (accidentally) represent some validations for the Book of Mormon. While it probably does, I’d say it raises at least as many questions about the possibility of pinning the events in the Book of Mormon to any one pre-AD1500 culture specifically. So in broad application, the material is very supportive, but to anyone wishing to “prove” the Book of Mormon account truthful by identifying a specific pre-Columbian civilization, I don’t think there will be much luck. There are similarities to many pieces of these cultures, but not any one of them in an overwhelming way. And even with as complete a picture as Mann paints, there’s still a remarkable lot we don’t know about these people…the book is barely a scratch in the sand of what happened to these folks, and Mann makes that very clear.

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17 bob October 17, 2009 at 1:17 AM

You’re all delusional

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18 Rusty Lindquist October 18, 2009 at 10:53 AM

I’ve enjoyed all the comments… err, well, perhaps that last one not so much (it’s a bit lacking in substance ;-) .

Persimmon, thanks for your thoughts, I’m glad you enjoyed the book. I agree with you as well, the broad application of the book is supportive, but I’m unsure whether or not that could actually lead to diffinitive conclusions as to exact identifications of the people. Although, I’m anxious to study it more.

Randy, I’d love to talk to you further about the subject, and pick your brain about the archeological conclusions you’ve reached. To Margaret’s point, truth of the Book of Mormon can only be confirmed by divine manifestation, but in terms of hobbies, it’s certainly a fascinating path to pursue. Randy, if you’ve not read 1491 yet, I do recommend it (it is a bitt “zzzzzz” inducing, LOL), and if you have, what do you think?

I’ll write more on the matter in the near future, including specific things from the book that I found particularly relevant.

Best to all…

Rusty

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19 Jim Vernon July 13, 2010 at 2:53 AM

I treasure the Book of Mormon. As I do the Bible and the RLDS Doctrine and covenants. Hierarchy of seminary schools and elitists seem to pooh-pooh anything that is not yet provable. Any nation or band of people that received a prophet into their midst was usually not going to end up as a pat on the back. Joseph Smith for all his long and short comings was indeed a prophet of God. His most spiritual works were early in his ministry, He kind of lost some of his God-sentliness as he got older. The Book of Mormon was not given to a church group. It ws given to a sober young man who shared his event with them. They were not power brokers of religion and academia. They realized the hallowedness of this gift and formed a church after receiving it. Seems backwards but God’s ways are his own. The Book of Mormon is a readers digest king of synopsis. More is to come. We must first digest andvalue what we have received. It is an affair of the spiritual heart. It does not cause a believer to be superior to others. When I share about it, the burn in the bosom I receive leaves me with tenents of RLDS Helaman 2:31. Desire is the spiritual factor that will assist us as lead by the Holy Spirit. Same with the Bible and D & C. This Book is another support that Jesus Christ is who the Bible purports Him to be. Read on.

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